Now scientists - the historians studying the early Middle Ages, are unanimous that Alain and various options of this name occur from Central Asian Alani.
(Bernard S. Bahrah - "HISTORY ALAN IN THE WEST")




Сейчас ученые- историки, изучающие раннее средневековье, единодушны в том, что Алейн и различные варианты этого имени происходят от центральноазиатского Алaни.
(Бернард С. БАХРАХ - "ИСТОРИЯ АЛАН НА ЗАПАДЕ")





THE BEST OF ALL TO MAKE THE HOMELAND FOR ALANS IN CALIFORNIA - TO SETTLE ALL PEOPLE WITH the SURNAME ALAN TOGETHER ALL 10 000 000 PEOPLE and Ossetians will have in USA a powerful group of support more powerful than at Jews!







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Abkhazia will render the monetary help to immigrants from Syria
From Syria, arrived to Abkhazia, financial support will be rendered to repatriates. About it as reports "Apsnypress", the president of the republic Alexander Ankvab declared.
It charged, that the State Committee on repatriation monthly paid arrived of Syria on 10 thousand rubles on each adult and on three thousand rubles on minor children. Thus to repatriates, according to the president, financial support and for that time which they already led in Abkhazia should be added.
At meeting the president noted that the authorities should give more attention to "the vital issues of repatriates": in particular, to questions of their life and employment. The deputy head of committee on repatriation Ahmad Marchand, in turn, declared that with assistance of his department the majority of immigrants already found work.
At the beginning of 2012 the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Abkhazia declared that is ready to assist representatives of the Abkhazian diaspora in Syria if those wish to return on the historical homeland. The head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Vyacheslav Chirikba thus expressed concern in a situation in Syria where actually there is a civil war.
According to the Abkhazian authorities for the beginning of year, in Syria live about 8-10 thousand Abkhazians. The majority of them as noted Chirikba,




"in the Syrian passports have the Abaze surname that 'Abkhazian' in Arab means, and thus express the ethnic identity".


By data on the middle of November, to Abkhazia within repatriation from Syria there arrived 103 persons.




Ossetia will render the monetary help to immigrants from America
From America, arrived to Ossetia, financial support will be rendered to repatriates. About it as reports "Alanpress", the president of the republic Leonid Tibilov declared.
It charged, that the State Committee on repatriation monthly paid arrived of America on 300 dollars on each adult and on 100 dollars on minor children. Thus to repatriates, according to the president, financial support and for that time which they already led in Ossetia should be added.
At meeting the president noted that the authorities should give more attention to "the vital issues of repatriates": in particular, to questions of their life and employment. The deputy head of committee on repatriation, in turn, declared that with assistance of its department the majority of immigrants already found work.
At the beginning of 2012 the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ossetia declared that is ready to assist representatives of alan-osetian diaspora in America if those wish to return on the historical homeland. The head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs thus expressed understanding in a situation in America.
According to the Ossetian authorities for the beginning of year, in America live around 8-10 millions alans-ossetians. The majority of them as noted Minister of Foreign Affairs, "in the American passports have a surname Alan that 'alan-ossetian' in English means, and thus express the ethnic identity".
By data on the middle of November, to Ossetia within repatriation from America profits 103 000 persons.



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Абхазия окажет денежную помощь иммигрантам из Сирии
Репатриантам из Сирии, прибывшим в Абхазию, будет оказана материальная помощь. Об этом, как сообщает "Апсныпресс", заявил президент республики Александр Анкваб.
Он поручил, чтобы Госкомитет по репатриации ежемесячно выплачивал прибывшим из Сирии по 10 тысяч рублей на каждого взрослого и по три тысячи рублей на несовершеннолетних детей. При этом репатриантам, по словам президента, должна быть начислена материальная помощь и за то время, которое они уже провели в Абхазии.
На совещании президент отметил, что власти должны уделять больше внимания "насущным вопросам репатриантов": в частности, вопросам их быта и трудоустройства. Замглавы комитета по репатриации Ахмад Маршан, в свою очередь, заявил, что при содействии его ведомства большинство иммигрантов уже нашли работу.
В начале 2012 года МИД Абхазии заявил, что готов оказать помощь представителям абхазской диаспоры в Сирии, если те пожелают вернуться на историческую родину. Глава МИДа Вячеслав Чирикба при этом выразил озабоченность ситуацией в Сирии, где фактически идет гражданская война.
По информации абхазских властей на начало года, в Сирии проживают около 8-10 тысяч абхазов. Большинство из них, как отметил Чирикба, "в своих сирийских паспортах имеют фамилию Абаза, что по-арабски означает 'абхаз', и таким образом выражают свою этническую идентичность".
По данным на середину ноября, в Абхазию в рамках репатриации из Сирии прибыли 103 человека.

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Ossetia will render the monetary help to immigrants from America
From America, arrived to Ossetia, financial support will be rendered to repatriates. About it as reports "Alanpress", the president of the republic Leonid Tibilov declared.
It charged, that the State Committee on repatriation monthly paid arrived of America on 300 dollars on each adult and on 100 dollars on minor children. Thus to repatriates, according to the president, financial support and for that time which they already led in Ossetia should be added.
At meeting the president noted that the authorities should give more attention to "the vital issues of repatriates": in particular, to questions of their life and employment. The deputy head of committee on repatriation, in turn, declared that with assistance of its department the majority of immigrants already found work.
At the beginning of 2012 the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ossetia declared that is ready to assist representatives of alan-osetian diaspora in America if those wish to return on the historical homeland. The head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs thus expressed understanding in a situation in America.
According to the Ossetian authorities for the beginning of year, in America live around 8-10 millions alans (ossetians). The majority of them as noted Minister of Foreign Affairs, "in the American passports have a surname Alan that 'alan (ossetian)' in English means, and thus express the ethnic identity".
By data on the middle of November, to Ossetia within repatriation from America profits 103 000 persons.



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Осетия окажет денежную помощь иммигрантам из америки.
Репатриантам из америки, прибывшим в Осетию, будет оказана материальная помощь. Об этом, как сообщает "Аланпресс", заявил президент республики Леонид Тибилов.
Он поручил, чтобы Госкомитет по репатриации ежемесячно выплачивал прибывшим из америки по 10 тысяч рублей на каждого взрослого и по три тысячи рублей на несовершеннолетних детей. При этом репатриантам, по словам президента, должна быть начислена материальная помощь и за то время, которое они уже провели в Осетии.
На совещании президент отметил, что власти должны уделять больше внимания "насущным вопросам репатриантов": в частности, вопросам их быта и трудоустройства. Замглавы комитета по репатриации, в свою очередь, заявил, что при содействии его ведомства большинство иммигрантов уже нашли работу.
В начале 2012 года МИД Осетии заявил, что готов оказать помощь представителям аланской (осетинской) диаспоры в америки, если те пожелают вернуться на историческую родину. Глава МИДа при этом выразил понимание ситуацией в америке.
По информации осетинских властей на начало года, в америки проживают около 8-10 миллионоа аланов (осетинов). Большинство из них, "в своих американских паспортах имеют фамилию Алан, что по-английски означает 'алан (осетин)', и таким образом выражают свою этническую идентичность".
По данным на середину ноября, в Осетию в рамках репатриации из америки прибыли 103000 человека.

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School 4. Ideas of God.

Continuing conversation on base world outlook provisions (codes) not the superfluous will remind of what they form our thinking and the relation to the world, and, in much bigger degree, than ideological (formulated by means of words) installations. Evident mythological images influence our thinking, rather than dry verbal formulations more strongly. In this regard national fairy tales, legends, traditions have bigger value, than it can seem at first sight.

One of the central places in outlook of the person occupies idea of God which is very important since forms the relation of the person with the highest, enduring reality that in turn, certainly, defines the relation of the person to, to the nature and to society. This point of view is shared by modern theologians. So, the professor of the Moscow Spiritual Academy and Seminary Alexey Ilyich Osipov argues: «Ideas of God define all character, a system and the direction of our human life. God is a shrine for us and according to this shrine we and we carry out the life». «Ideas of God it is cultivated passions and the person lives according to cultivated image of God» (Idea of God. Osipov A.I. prof. Well. http://video.mail.ru/mail/helen_joy/477/481.html).

Libraries of the world are filled with religious literature of theologians – interpreters of the "sacred" writing. It is very difficult to majority of believers to understand subtleties of various treatments of "Holy Writ" because they actually are sophistical idle talks behind which there is no depth of thought. Therefore here we will analyze not ideological reasonings of sophisticated theologians in the art, and the simple visions informed to us by "Holy Writ" or spiritual tradition, remained both in oral, and in written culture of the people.

In Ossetian religious culture, despite abundance of monuments of oral national creativity, the main source of idea of God nevertheless is religious (transpersonal) experience which in tradition is understood as unity understanding with Divine essence. These representations, as well as ways of mastering by necessary conditions, are Basic Elements of outlook which are formed in the course of practical prayful ritual.

It is necessary to note that the subject of an image of God isn't especially "generously" discussed" in legends the Ossetian (in comparison with the Bible), but even in available not numerous narrations contours of representations of our ancestors about the Founder rather accurately appear. Here one of the brightest, in our opinion, fragments: «Hutsau æй duyny сæр. Дуйнейæн æ райдайæн æмææ кæрон. … Hutsau æхецæн цæрæн бунат исаккаг кодта æгас duyny рохс. Duynya рохси къабæзтæ – тухтæ æнцæ, арв, дунгæ, зæнхæ, Don æмæ a zing». (God to all head. It "beginning" and "termination" of the world (Universe). The most suitable place for the «Ob

For "dwelling" God chose as the most suitable place World Light. Parts of this Light (its derivatives) are various forces, the sky, the earth, a wind (air), water, fire). (Gardanti Michal. «Уадзимистæ». Дзæугигъæу2007. Page 389) Here can remember as also legends an origin of the sledge which ancestor was «артæй гуырд Сæуæссæ», and the foremother «донбетыры чызг», (is present the symbolics of fire and water which as it was noted, are Light derivatives). Is in oral legends and such: «Hutsau фæлдист at duyny рохсæй мæ æй duyny рохс». (God arose from Universal Light, It and is Universal Light). (in the same place) All this in total understanding gives us representation that God is Light and, even, more deeply and more mysteriously, than Light, such that it is impossible to describe something words but that there is a basis of all and is shown in all the real.

On the basis of oral legends it is possible to understand that Light and is "Body" of God, and respectively, all world surrounding us is transformed "Body" of God. God gives "Body" - Light to the victim and it will be transformed to the World perceived by us. At all this God keeps the essence of the creator and the highest Consciousness (Maun). A symbol of such representation is the body of the sacrificial animal which parts are distributed on an altar – фынг (е) on hierarchy, thus the head of an animal symbolizing the highest principle, eat only next day after the Sacred meal. The head as a symbol of the highest beginning supervising the World created by it, in traditional representation the Ossetian remains the most esteemed object. Surprisingly eloquent symbolism almost not translated by means of words! The deepest according to the contents is also the symbol of the organization of the world, shown in sacrificial pies (see about it the previous publications).

The episode of creation of the Universe, described in the Nartsky epos where it is said that before this illusory World - «мæнг Дуне» - was «sleeping, dark and mute» is interesting also. (Sledge каджытæ. Т.1 Ir 1989г. Page 14) And here from depth of this sleeping World arises Light which is giving rise to all variety of things and the phenomena. There is a True World of Light (Rukhs Donne, Æссæг Donne), not available to daily understanding. God is shown from this unknown to us the World in the form of Light and creates the diverse World of things realized by us and the phenomena.

On the basis of given above images it is possible to argue unequivocally that in the most ancient traditional doctrine there is a clear idea of God, that God is present at Everything and Everything is manifestation of God that God Vseobjemlyushch, is eternal and there is no equal to It, for God Light, life, essence. God is the Life source, the reason of all beings. As though we tried to describe it, there is no the way allowing adequately it to make. It can't be placed in a framework of foreseeable space and time.

God, from the point of view of traditional religious culture, not the murderer, not the avenger, not the sly fellow, not the adherent. «Huytsau тыхгæнæг нæ фæцæуы, probe фæамоны». (Tsartsiata таурæгътæ. Iran адæмы epos. ĺæÒñªÙÕÛæÒ 2007. Page 26), говHe speaks зэдам and дауагам on their request to kill one of heroes of the epos. God allocates people addressing to it with knowledge in which the happiness and wellbeing – фарн is concluded (and). God is Rest and the Benefit. God acquaints people with good fortune (фарн) which starts with It. The evil appears in ignorance (фыдзонд) when the person loses touch good luck, is discharged of It, from his wisdom.

Interest represents "management style" of God which is presented to consciousness of traditional society in oral national legends. Here one of typical pictures of such management: «Уæд уæларв хуыцауы бадæнты уыди æмбырд. Uytsa Huytsau's æмбырды дзырд радта йæ зæдтæн, йæ дауджытæн.

– Тæригъæдæй Mary быдыры астæу Sau Æлдары фырт. Æвирхъау хъуыддаг ын бакодта йæ хæрамзæрдæ фыд. Ноджы йын æнцад cash уадзы йæ цыппар moustaches, хæст сыл самадта, тыхсын сæ кæны. Чи уæ бахуыс кæнид uyets мæгуыртæн.

Уæд Uastyrdzhi загъта.

– Donne Дарæг, Donne Уыромæг стыр Huytsau мæн æм арвит, æз ын бакæнинаг дæн цы мын зæгъай uy.

– Уæдæ афтæ фæуæд. Уымæн хос мæ куыхы дæр нæй, йæ хос дæлдзæхы Хадзымæ. Цæугæ уырдæм. Hadza дын радзæн дыуæ тæгæры сыфы, uydon-iu лæппуйы цæстытыл авæр, æмæ uy ракæсдзæн».

(Then the throne of God had a collecting. On this collecting God pledged a word created by it зэдам and дауагам.

- It is a pity Black Aldar's son dies among a field. With it his mean father badly arrived. In addition doesn't leave alone his four wives, war organized against them, prevents them to live quietly. Who can help it?

Then Uastyrdzhi told:

- Send me the Almighty, the Founder of the Universe, I am ready to make everything that you will tell.

- Let will be so. It can be helped by a maple leaf which is stored in a vault at Haza. Put it to eyes of the young man and it will find again sight.) (Tsotsko's Æмбалты. «Удвæрны хæзнатæ». ĺæÒñªÙ¬ÛæÒ 2009. «Sau æлдары аргъæу». Page 35)

Pictures of the Nartsky epos show that God created the world perfect, allocated the creations with a certain measure and the right (a bar – the right; a bar a slovoobrazuyushchy root in words: бæрц, барын – a measure to measure). In the world created by It, everything is perfect and counterbalanced and copes as though "by itself". God himself doesn't interfere with management process, but deeply penetrates into the events. It gives the chance to the creations allocated from it with a certain gift (a measure, the right), to see, solve and exercise administration on "site" "entrusted" them. It is quiet and has no passions. Itself doesn't assume the functions granted to forces created by it and creations. Thus nothing can escape from its Attention and Will.

In the book "Writer Stalin" known Israeli Slavist Mikhail Vayskopf (Mikhail Vayskopf. "Writer Stalin". New literary review. M, 2001г. Page 181-198), analyzing an idiolect (a special combination of words and expressions, characteristic for this person) Stalin, on purpose to understand deep structures of his outlook, came to a conclusion that the folklore basis of the Stalin personality went back to the Nartsky epos. Nartsky epos was specified by Vayskopf as one


ayskopfy as one of three sources of formation of the identity of Stalin.

Anatoly Wasserman arguing on Stalin's management, speaks: «Now there are very rough disputes of that in a methodical grant to one of versions of the textbook of history is told that Stalin was the effective manager. But, unfortunately, not all understand that is put in this phrase. The most part of the people considers that it means as if it effectively used repressions for advance of certain nation-wide purposes. And so I very much wanted to work under the direction of such manager because it took not repressions. It took penetration into the main point and extensive consultations of all experts, anyway, connected with a solved question. (Anatoly Wasserman. «Stalin the most effective manager». http://www.russia.ru/video/diskurs_9135/).

Comparing Stalin's management style to the management style presented in the Nartsky epos, it is possible to agree with Mikhail Vayskopf's conclusions. M. Vayskopf is right concerning sources of an idiolect of Stalin. It proves to be true the analysis of the most wide spiritual and administrative experience containing in depths of nartsky heritage.

Wishing to receive doubtful political dividends some modern applicants for spiritual leadership try to deprive our young generation of communication with cultural and spiritual heritage of the people, putting some idea to it that Ossetians allegedly historically Christians or Muslims. A natural consequence of it is substitution of world outlook values. Ideals come to change of traditions of ancestors and values of other people. And matter is not in volume, they are bad or are good, they simply others and, therefore, adhering to these views we cease to be oneself, we cease to be keepers and successors of the most ancient culture.

Now we suggest to consider attentively that palm off on the people instead of its true cultural values, that is imposed to adults and children as the best examples of spirituality and moral.

For a start we will consider bible "pictures" which irrespective of our desires form in our consciousness an image of God, and consequently and (according to Osipov A.I.) image of our behavioural reference point.

«Also heard a voice of the Lord going in paradise during a cool of day; Adam and his wife on behalf of the Lord between paradise trees also disappeared. The Lord also appealed to Adam, and told to it: where are you?» (Life 3; 8,9). Apparently, God bible isn't ubiquitous, It goes in a cool (as the person) and looks for Adam. … «Here, Adam became as one of Us, knowing the good and evil; and now, it as though didn't stretch the hand, and didn't take also from a life tree, both didn't taste, and didn't begin to live eternally» (the Life. 3, 22). Bible God, thus, still feels also concern: as though the person didn't seize divine possibilities. … And here other fragment: «24 Also there was Iakov one. Somebody also fought against it before emergence of a dawn; 25 and, having seen that doesn't overcome it, concerned structure of a hip it and damaged hip structure at Iakov when he fought against It. 26


Also told to [it]: release Me for there ascended a dawn. Iakov told: I will not release You, yet you will not bless me. 27 Also told: how your name? He told: Iakov. 28 Also told to [it]: from now on the name to you will be not Iakov, and Israel for you fought good luck, and человеков will overcome. 29 Iakov Asked, speaking: tell to [me] the name Your. And He told: on what you ask about my name? [it is wonderful.] Also blessed him there. 30 Iakov Also named a name to a place to that: Penuel; for, he spoke, I saw God face to face, and my soul» (Life 22) remained. The person perceiving similar "pictures" has mixed feelings. God isn't powerful, can't overcome the person also it is alien to the nature because is afraid of light of day and operates at night. (Here as required it would be desirable to pay attention that the same fragment in the Torah looks in a different way:« Not Iakov there should be your name, and Israel for you competed with an angel. … Iakov also named a name to a place to that Pniel, for:« I saw an angel face to face and survived» (Vaishlakh 32; 28-31). Apparently in this fragment it is a question of an angel, instead of about God that forms other relation to the highest forces.) … «And at midnight the Lord struck all first-borns (children) in the earth Egyptian, from the first-born of the Pharaoh sitting on the throne, to the first-born of the prisoner being in a dungeon, and all first-born of cattle» (the Outcome 12; 29). It is obvious that in bible representation God also the infanticide. Terrible and ruthless, it strikes not only children human, but also cubs of cattle. Why such cruelty and to whom these victims are necessary? These questions set the reader of the "sacred" writing. … "Lord" speaks to Moisey: Inspire to the people that everyone at the near and each woman at the near, elicited things silver and things gold. … Sons израилевы by Moisey's word also made and asked from Egyptians of things silver, things gold and clothes. The Lord gave favor to the people in the opinion of Egyptians, and they gave it, and it gathered Egyptians» (the Outcome 11, 2; 12,35) Here to us idea of God, as an artful being who learns to gather kind people opens. Let somebody at the neighbor will try to go and elicit gold and silver things. Who will give? Only very kind and sincere persons who really love you and sympathize with you. And (judging by that is told in the bible) God, to the people orders to gather these people. … «The people began to grumble aloud. … We remember fish whom in Egypt we ate with gift, cucumbers and melons, both onions and onions and garlic. … And the Lord heard and his anger ignited. At them Lord's fire also ignited, and started to exterminate camp edge. … will eat meat. As you cried aloud misters and spoke:« who will feed us meat? It was good to us in Egypt», - that and the Lord will give you meat, and will eat, not two days, not five days, not ten days and not twenty days; but the whole month while it won't go from your nostrils …» (Numbers 11; 1,5, 18,19,20). And here, God предстаёт as violent and angry teacher. It could give meat for a change food, but it gives so that unfortunate people didn't dare about h


He is irritated by requests of people. … He has as well a feeling of hatred: «I loved Iakov, and Isava began to hate» (It is small. 1, 2-3). He demands this hatred and from esteeming it: «Whether to me to begin to hate hating You, My God, and not возгнушаться rising on you? Full hatred I hate them; enemies they to me» (Ps. 138, 21-22). … Farther it is more:« Also there was to me a word Lord's: 2. son human! there were two women, daughters of one mother, 3. they also fornicated in Egypt, fornicated in the youth; there their breasts are crumpled, and virgin sosets there corrupted them. 4. Names to them: Ogola, and her sister - Ogoliva. 5. Ogola from Me also began to fornicate and conceived a liking for the lovers …, 9. For that I also gave of it in charge lovers it, … 10. They … killed her a sword». (Иезекииль16). God is in the form of the person, It gets to itself(himself) wives, and It isn't so perfect, as wives look for for themselves that - that more interesting. 11. Her sister, Ogoliva, saw it, and still razvrashchenny was in the love, and the bluzheniye surpassed it bluzheny sisters it. the flesh also conceived a liking for the lovers, at which - a flesh asinine, and lust, as at stallions. (Иезекииль23). Continuation of this narration as indicates to us imperfection of God, moreover, seemingly, that he feels an inferiority complex. 22. Therefore, Ogoliva the Lord so speaks: here, I will raise against you your lovers, …. 25. Also I will turn my jealousy against you, and will arrive with you furiously: will cut off at you a nose and ears, and other yours from a sword will fall; will take your sons and your daughters, and other yours fire will be devoured; 48. So I will put an end to libertinism on this earth, and all women will accept a lesson, and won't do sramny affairs like you; 49. also will assign to you your libertinism, and will be punished for sins with your idols, and learn that I am Lord». (Иезекииль23) God is jealous, vindictive and cruel. … «The Lord was with Judas, and It seized the mountain. But inhabitants of a valley couldn't banish; because they had iron chariots.» (Book. Judges Izrailevs 1; 19) And here God isn't all-powerful and it appears is helpless before iron chariots, before creation of hands human.

… The following fragment from the New Testament: «I am sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Izrailev. And она* having approached bowed to It and spoke: My God! Help me. He told in reply: it is not good to take from children ** and to throw to dogs ***». (From Matfey 15; 24,26). Jesus as the God's son is selective on an ethnic sign and doesn't want to recognize existence of internal advantage at "not electee" of the people. … «If who comes to Me, and won't begin to hate the father and mother, and the wife and children, and brothers and sisters, and besides and the life, that can't be my pupil» (From Luki:14, 26), Jesus acts as the opponent of a family and calls for refusal of a family. The obligation to "hate" the parents and the life corresponds with the obligation to throw everything and to follow, having taken the cross, for the teacher. To those who wants to reproach us with misunderstanding of Bible "allegories" we will remind of that that: The Trentsky cathedral in the tenth canon confirmed,

in peak to reformers, «an anathema to the one who says that marriage is higher than virginity or a celibacy or that is better also pokhvalny to marry, than to stay in a virginity or celibacy condition». …« God chose not wise the world to shame wise … and nothing meaning God chose to abolish the meaning. That no flesh was praised before God». (the 1st to Corinthians 1; 27-29). And here, we see the jealous God who is not granting knowledge, and "abolishing" them.

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* hananeyanka (примеч. author)

** сыновИзраиля *** not to Jews

Such "pictures" and descriptions of God it is possible to find in the Bible much. The most interesting is that in bible images we recognize our contemporaries who accepted or haven't accepted Christianity, but thus apprehended in the course of education and education some Christian ideas or close to them materialistic, having gathered them also from mass media and works of art. These pictures of bible life remind us of our some modern heads who are zealously standing up for the Christian sermon, fathers rejecting thus the pure doctrine. Having put on another's dress, they also behave as appropriate: aren't reserved in the feelings, are intolerant of dissent, are irascible, false in speeches, are diffident, care only of the wellbeing to the detriment of general welfare, being irritated thus on people "complaining". We are once again convinced here of Osipov A.I. correctness.: «the person lives according to cultivated image of God».

We pay attention of the reader and to other fact. When Christian, in particular orthodox, theologians interpret God, their representations appear absolutely others, than that arise at visualization of "pictures" described in the Bible. Christian God has more similarities to ideas of God, starting with "pictures" of Indo-European heritage, i.e. from religion which they call "pagan". So, in one of lectures Danielle Sysoyev's priest describes God as follows:« God the highest, eternal, invariable, God isn't described neither space, nor mind because it is spirit uniform, eternal incorporeal, invariable vseblagy, ruling, wise, invisible and not achievable and in anything not needing, It is a clemency and truth source, light intellectual and unapproachable, Force any measure not defined and only actually will measured, Everything that he will want can. Force it gets into all of essence itself, remaining pure. Establishes all of the administration and ranks. And itself is above all the administration and a rank. God light, itself clemency, life, love, itself essence. Itself there is a life source, the reason of all benefits for all beings call it Love. Because it долготерпит, isn't extolled, doesn't rejoice to a lie. But rejoices to truth, everything covers, to everything trusts, always hopes and his love never disappears. He won't love (as in Islam) He already loves the creation for he created it. His love more initially than creation, It attaches to pleasure, which in it. It all объ


fills also with anything it is not embraced. It doesn't create the evil, because the evil has no essence. This ugliness a shortcoming, lameness, an illness is malicious. Lawlessness which arises because free beings abuse the freedom. The Lord renders for malicious affairs. God the Almighty over everything commanding, and reigning a kingdom. Has no rival and there is nobody soravny to it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFAyp_ID39s)


In the previous articles we said that the ideology is born from outlook. Here we see notable contradictions between ideological formulas and world outlook images. There is a lawful question: how such can be? If the doctrine is complete, the ideology should reflect outlook! The outlook as it was told earlier, influences our behavior much more strongly, than ideological formulas. Certificates to it suffices if attentively to look around and to analyse daily experience of public life. It is enough to look at how the general hobby for Christianity or materialism brings customs of people into accord with the moral qualities presented in "pictures" of the bible. We realize that today it is difficult to find the people who are guided by idealization of divine qualities about whom theologians speak. These theologians from where scoop the images representing Christian God? Why the declared image of Christian God is so similar to an image of other God ("pagan") which very much isn't similar to God presented in the Bible?

The answer to this question can be found at known European thinkers. It is enough to mention in this regard Arnold Van Gennep, P. Santiva (Emil Nurri) and Paul Sebiyo's compositions, shown in the works as the Church originally furiously fighting against "pagan" folk customs, appeared it is compelled to "acquire" subsequently them, it is more or less superficial христианизировав and as these customs lived, sometimes in very bright look, up to now. "Assimilation", certainly, concerns not only external ceremonialism and customs, but also the semantic contents. Alain de Benois in the work «Can how be a pagan» writes: «Hristianizatsiya caused process European псевдоморфоза owing to what there was a number of the interactions which have generated, finally, hybrid religious category. After a hristianizatsiya of Europe neither the European culture, nor Christianity more didn't correspond to the roots and own "nature".« Theoretically, – Julius Evola writes, – Europe accepted Christianity..., but practically Europe remained pagan. The hybrid» as a result turned out. The Christianity in a certain degree changed – at least temporarily – the European person. As O. Spengler noticed in «the Decline of Europe», «the European person too changed Christianity». «As to paganism, – Maurice Bella writes, – that the Christian belief simply came of it in the stead isn't so obvious. In certain cases it is only a Christian cover on the ancient religious basis, оставши


«Exactly being based on this supervision a number of authors, declared - as Erich Fromm writes, - that Europe never was rather Christian in spite of the fact that during certain eras and in certain places it was completely impregnated with the belief which is officially approving the Christian character. Thus, the address of Europe to Christianity «substantially was only visibility». To Sigrid Hunka – one of few researchers who are systematically studying this subject, showed a considerable convergence between «great objections», put forward within centuries against the dominating ideology presented by official belief. In this convergence she sees the spiritual continuity expressing lines of force of «other religion of Europe» – original religion of Europe, – religions which is shown at the end of the IV century in the doctrine Pelagia, again is shown in the IX century in Scott Eriugena's doctrine which is expressed since the XIV century by Maister Eckhart and his pupils (Henry Suzo, Johann Tauler, Sebastian Frank von Donauvert), Jacob Bema, Paracelsus, Ioakhim Florsky, Lucilio Vanini, Amalriky from Ben, David Dinat etc. and whose successors in different degree are both Erazm and Leonardo da Vinci, and Henry Moore, Shaftesbury, Valentin Vaygel, Pestalozzi, a German romantic and idealistic current in the main lines, Goethe, the Edging, Fichte, Schelling, Shleyermakher and Herder, Russian Feofan and Berdyaev, Frenchmen Teyar de Chardin and Saint-Exupéry etc. For all romantic tradition God and the Installed essence only different sides and different names same. Thus, that revives secret «religiousness of the world» which Edward Shpranger defines as the basis of "pagan" spirit and which modern source he sees in Goethe, and then in Shleyermakhera "." To consider God and the nature separately, – writes to Goethe in 1770, – it is difficult and dangerous: it all the same what to consider separately soul and a body while we learn soul only through a body, and God only through the nature "." How the nature out of us is possible?» – Schelling («A German science») asks (we will remind: the Christian theology considers God and his creation as an essence different). According to Herder, «The deity is shown integrally, that is by means of operating forces». Gegel argues that «To love God means to feel in infinite, plunging completely and entirely into life». Thus, "paganism" concludes the union, but not with distinct from the world the absolute, and with the world. It concludes the union with the earth:« To imagine God and the earth as the same idea» (Ranier Maria to Rilka). The matter and spirit, declares also Teyar, an essence not «two things», and «two conditions of one space fabric (...) a fabric of the Universe is the spirit matter». Klaudy Trezmontant writes: «Thus, in the world and by means of the world God reaches the highest status of the existence. God isn't separated from the world. At the same time it can't be confused to the world. God is depth of the world: it is higher than everything, but it not outside of everything. This statement name


«Exactly being based on this supervision a number of authors, declared - as Erich Fromm writes, - that Europe never was rather Christian in spite of the fact that during certain eras and in certain places it was completely impregnated with the belief which is officially approving the Christian character. Thus, the address of Europe to Christianity «substantially was only visibility». To Sigrid Hunka – one of few researchers who are systematically studying this subject, showed a considerable convergence between «great objections», put forward within centuries against the dominating ideology presented by official belief. In this convergence she sees the spiritual continuity expressing lines of force of «other religion of Europe» – original religion of Europe, – religions which is shown at the end of the IV century in the doctrine Pelagia, again is shown in the IX century in Scott Eriugena's doctrine which is expressed since the XIV century by Maister Eckhart and his pupils (Henry Suzo, Johann Tauler, Sebastian Frank von Donauvert), Jacob Bema, Paracelsus, Ioakhim Florsky, Lucilio Vanini, Amalriky from Ben, David Dinat etc. and whose successors in different degree are both Erazm and Leonardo da Vinci, and Henry Moore, Shaftesbury, Valentin Vaygel, Pestalozzi, a German romantic and idealistic current in the main lines, Goethe, the Edging, Fichte, Schelling, Shleyermakher and Herder, Russian Feofan and Berdyaev, Frenchmen Teyar de Chardin and Saint-Exupéry etc. For all romantic tradition God and the Installed essence only different sides and different names same. Thus, that revives secret «religiousness of the world» which Edward Shpranger defines as the basis of "pagan" spirit and which modern source he sees in Goethe, and then in Shleyermakhera "." To consider God and the nature separately, – writes to Goethe in 1770, – it is difficult and dangerous: it all the same what to consider separately soul and a body while we learn soul only through a body, and God only through the nature "." How the nature out of us is possible?» – Schelling («A German science») asks (we will remind: the Christian theology considers God and his creation as an essence different). According to Herder, «The deity is shown integrally, that is by means of operating forces». Gegel argues that «To love God means to feel in infinite, plunging completely and entirely into life». Thus, "paganism" concludes the union, but not with distinct from the world the absolute, and with the world. It concludes the union with the earth:« To imagine God and the earth as the same idea» (Ranier Maria to Rilka). The matter and spirit, declares also Teyar, an essence not «two things», and «two conditions of one space fabric (...) a fabric of the Universe is the spirit matter». Klaudy Trezmontant writes: «Thus, in the world and by means of the world God reaches the highest status of the existence. God isn't separated from the world. At the same time it can't be confused to the world. God is depth of the world: it is higher than everything, but it not outside of everything. This statement name

isn't a particle of divine essence». Maister Eckhart also opposes bible idea of the far God inaccessible to the person. In one of very bright fragments in "Fragments" he adds:« That I am a person, unites me with all people; that I see and I hear, I eat and I drink, unites me with all animals. But that I am I, concerns only me, treats me and to anybody to another, nor to any person, an angel or God, excepting that degree in what I am uniform with it». Johann Henry Pestalozzi argues:« Volya Boga and that the best that I can reach, an essence same "." So the idea that the person touches to divine when it gives the best from this that can give and when surpasses itself again proves to be true. In it consists deep – and deeply "pagan" – logic. The person should not only be oneself, correspond to "nature", he should aspire also to "super nature", to supermankind – to that supermankind, in preventing to which achievement iudeo-Christian monotheism sees if not the purpose, the calling» - is concluded by Alain de Benois. (The references which were had in the text to foreign authors are quoted according to Alyona de Benois book «It is possible how to be the pagan» http://www.modernlib.ru/books/de_alen/k... ikom/read/)

Among other things we should remember that on Christianity and Christian ideology great and direct influence was rendered by ancient Iranian religious tradition. And, this influence was rather strong not only in the Middle East in origin of the Christian doctrine, but also in the Europe. So, the American researchers K.Scott Litlton and Linda A. Malkor in the work «From Skifiya to Camelot» showed that the legends extended among the Christian European people about the Bowl of Graal and King Arthur are obliged by the origin to Sarmatians and аланам childbirth which long time, in the Middle Ages, «were kept by the influence on church and the aristocracy». (K.Skot Litlton, Linda A. Malkor.« From Skifiya to Camelot». prod. Mendzher. 2007г. Page 317). Interestingly here and Getnik's remark, about that that «Graal from the very beginning was a sacred subject, but hadn't something in common with Christian belief. Representation that the knight of Graal – not the Christian, remained in the Welsh story "Peredur" (1300 – 1325гг.), where the hero can't answer Kai's questions because swore not to speak with Christians». (From Skifiya to Camelot. Page 281) And is interesting it to that clearly shows on real (not Christian) a source of knightly ideology and outlook. As to Russian Orthodoxy, it is known that in formation of the early Russian state active participation accepted the Sarmatian – аланы, carriers of the assovsky religious concept. E.S. Galkin writes about it:« The latest researches in the field of archeology, numismatics and эпиграфики confirmed reliability of mentions in the Arab-Persian literature on mysterious Russian каганате. Main ethnos of this military trading


The main ethnos of this military trading state Collums lodging in upper courses and Don sarmato-alany, made made considerable impact on Slavic tribes and formation of the Old Russian state. The earth of Russian каганата after his death entered into a kernel of Kievan Rus', having left Slavs the name "Russia". (Galkin E.S.« Secrets of Russian каганата». Moscow. Veche. 2002гС. 429). It is respectively easy to assume that the same of the Sarmatian – аланы played a certain role in formation of pre-Christian religious views of Russian people which, however, and without that bore in itself bases of Indo-European spiritual culture, that on which created also assovsky religious tradition. Confirmations to this assumption can be found in bylinas of Russian and Slavic people kept many subject parallels with nartsky narrations. In Russian oral tradition direct mentions of communication of alansky and Russian religious cultures remained also. In the bylina "The story about the Golden vessel", we read:" Rus (the mythical founder of the Russian State), chosen from the colleagues in the leader, left it and followed with the numerous people.... Asparukh, his father, incessantly practised in mysterious sciences. He tried to find means to an uchineniye of the people invincible, and on this end in approach of a great Russian horde to Alania, he left uphill Alan where started to work about the intention.
... Divine Light возблистал окрест throne; attendants of it sang of praises to the immortal...« Listen the father руссов, It broadcast to Asparukh, heavens patronize your jealousy of your fatherland; the destiny defines fearlessness and victories to participation of your people. It will subdue the countries in which strides, all North and parts of the East, the South and the West will undergo its power; other countries and people вострепещут uniform name. I always will be the patron of his wreath and a golden vessel, доколь princes Russian will get married this wreath, доколь will keep laws mysteriously ordered in it, the power and their sword won't hesitate for a time, but your fatherland when they from them will evade will rise. Their wreath will run into hands alien, fight of confusion will cover a face of nice Slovene area, and this will be time when it should it be subverted. However I will always erect it from its chayemy ruins. The golden vessel storing destiny руссов, will hold overweight against predators of this wreath»". (Ancient wonders т.3, book 1 Magically powerful stories of the 18th eyelid. M, Soviet Russia. 1991С.254).

On the basis of the aforesaid it is possible to draw a conclusion that wisdom of those aristocratic pre-Christian beliefs which source in «alansky mountains», most likely and was a spiritual basis in consciousness of Russian magicians which, in turn, could affect strongly the Holy Fathers comprehending true understanding of Spirit far from temples and bible interpretation, having moved away from noise of the cities and having remained alone with the nature. For this reason svyatootechesky Orthodoxy doesn't find a support in Bible culture and is compelled to exist


it is compelled to exist in fight against internal contradictions. On the other hand, it is necessary to understand that world outlook "pictures" are very convenient to the Christian clergy earning on them. After all, if God is ubiquitous, it is impossible to justify construction of "houses" for God if It in everything, it is impossible to explain functions of intermediaries between It and simple people if he loves the creation and isn't vindictive how to explain concept «God's fear»? Besides, the contradiction which arises in consciousness of the believer from the conflict between visual images and ideological formulas, generates sense of guilt that is convenient for the pastors aspiring to psychological enslavement of masses, but isn't acceptable for the people who are guided by comprehension of integrity and self-sufficiency of God and the person - to what the pure religious tradition should conduct that. By the way, we will remind of one Judaic custom described both in the Torah, and in the Bible:« Also Aaron both hands will assign to the head of a live goat, and professes over them all lawlessness of sons of Izrailevs both their all crimes and their all sins, and will assign to the head of a goat and will send with the courier the person to the desert. The goat on itself also will incur all lawlessness them to the earth impassable, and it will start up a goat to the desert». (Levynite 16; 21,22) This custom, obviously, existed for removal of cargo of fault. Probably, Judaic priests well understood malignancy of this feeling for mentality of the person.

Thus, all aforesaid allows to come to the following conclusions:

A.Osetinskaya religious culture is complete and consistent in the aspiration to help person to realize his unity from all Universe. In it the highest divine world, and also experience of communication constructed on its basis with all live beings, including and Basic spiritual and psychological Elements of management reveals executed sacrality, restraint, internal advantage.

B. Christian ideas of God are inconsistent and broken off, that they eclectically unite images of gods, opposite each other: bible God who is initially detached from the creation and drevneariysky - uniform with the creation. Besides, if to speak about Christianity sources, the Bible, initially leaning on the Torah, doesn't adhere to its primary contents, the major principles, ideas and images.

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I certainly am confident that the main sin of Ossetians in Ossetia because we out of Ossetia don't suffer this nonsense) it is
internationalism

the small people are OBLIGED to be the nationalist IF WANT to SURVIVE! The EXAMPLE SUCCESSFUL AT ALL ON EYES - Е In R Е And!
THEY STOP BEFORE whom And there is nothing And POSTOYANO MAKE NATIONAL SUCCESS AND ASETINTSA ALWAYS CAVE IN AND HERE ALANA NOT ALANA the PEOPLE ON the PEOPLE ANY SPLINTERS
4 OR 5 ALANs AROUND THE WORLD IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD
1 OSSETIA-ALANiA
2 LE САБЛЬС DOLON -ALANian SANDs FRANCE VENDEE
3 STATES AND 10 000 000 PEOPLE WITH THE SURNAME ALAN
BOTH AVTRALIYA AND CANADA AND ENGLAND AND IRELAND AND NEW ZEALAND AND AGAIN FRANCE AND QUEBEC WHERE LIVE NATIVES OF BRITTANY

HERE how many ALANs OF ALL IF TO COUNT ALL!!!!!!!!!!?

50 000 000 PEOPLE!


я безусловно уверен что основной грех осетинов в осетии потому что мы вне осетией этой чушью не страдаем) это сосиалистический))))))))))
интерьнационализьм тьфууууу

маленький народ ОБЯЗАН БЫТЬ НАЦИОНАЛИСТОМ ЕСЛИ ХОЧЕТ ВЫЖИТЬ! ПРИМЕР УСПЕШНЫЙ У ВСЕХ НА ГЛАЗАХ- Е В Р Е И !
ОНИ НЕ ОСТАНАВЛИВАЮТСЯ НИПЕРЕД ЧЕМ И НИПЕРЕД КЕМ И ПОСТОЯНО ИМЕЮТ НАЦИОАНЛЬНЫЙ УСПЕХ А АСЕТИНЦЫ ВСЕГДА ПРОГИБАЮТСЯ И ВОТ АЛАНЫ НЕ АЛАНЫ НАРОД НА НАРОД КАКИЕ ТО ОСКОЛКИ
4 ИЛИ 5 АЛАНИЙ ВО ВСЕМ МИРЕ В РАЗНЫХ ЧАСТЯХ СВЕТА
1 ОСЕТИЯ-АЛАНИЯ
2 ЛЕ САБЛЬС ДОЛОН -ПЕСКИ АЛАНОВ ФРАНЦИЯ ВАНДЕЯ
3 ШТАТЫ И 10 000 000 ЧЕЛОВЕК С ФАМИЛИЕЙ АЛАН
И АВТРАЛИЯ И КАНАДА И АНГЛИЯ И ИРЛАНДИЯ И НОВАЯ ЗЕЛАНДИЯ И ОПЯТЬ ФРАНЦИЯ И КВЕБЕК ГДЕ ЖИВУТ ВЫХОДЦЫ ИЗ БРЕТАНИ

ВОТ СКОКА АЛАНОВ ВСЕГО ЕСЛИ ПОСЧИТАТЬ ВСЕХ!!!!!!!!!!?

50 000 000 ЧЕЛОВЕК!

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THE PATCHED-UP PEACE IS BETTER THAN KIND WAR
to you speak there is no world ALANS everything everything lost
10 splinters of different size worldwide the shattered people deprived of the homeland!

it everything
and thus rather big population to 50 000 000 ethnic ALANS worldwide on 80 percentS in states IN England FROM Ireland to Canada, France ,Quebec, the Republic of South Africa AND across all Africa
everywhere!!!!!!!
JASZPEOPLEIN JSZUG HUNGARY, then these MongolsJASZUTS

can whom forgot

it IS not the world JUST that is now it simply

DEFEAT ALANS!


ХУДОЙ МИР ЛУЧШЕ ДОБРОЙ ВОЙНЫ
тебе говорят нету никакого мира аланы всё всё1 проиграли
10 осколков разной величины по всему миру раздробленный народ лишённый родины!

это всё
и при этом достаточно большая популяция до 50 000 000 етнических аланов по всему миру на 80; процентов в штатах англии ирландии канаде франции квебеке ЮАР да по всей африке
везде!!!!!!!
ясцы потом эти монголы ясуты

может кого забыл

это не мир то что есть сейчас это просто

ПОРАЖЕНИЕ АЛАНОВ!

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IF ALANS ARE SIMILAR ON DESTINY HISTORICAL TO JEWS THAT IT IS NECESSARY TO REPEAT SUCCESSFUL JEWISH HISTORY THAT'S ALL IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO THINK JEWS ALREADY EVERYTHING THOUGHT UP IT IS NECESSARY!

1 TO LEARN ALL ALANS LANGUAGES OF THOSE COUNTRIES WHERE LIVE ALANS
AS THAT ENGLISH RUSSIAN
FRENCH
IT IS NECESSARY FOR COMMUNICATION FOR CREATION THE COMMUNICATIONS BROKEN OFF AT DIFFERENT TIMES BETWEEN DIFFERENT PARTS OF ONE!!!!! PEOPLE!

THEN ALREADY IT WILL BE POSSIBLE TO OPERATE IN COMMON TO CREATE POLITICAL ECONOMIC ACTIONS
ONE BY ONE WE ALANS ARE WEAK IT CLEARLY!
ONE BY ONE WE CAN NOT RECREATE THE HOMELAND!!!!!!!
AND ANYBODY EXCEPT OURSELVES WILL NOT HELP US ANY PUTIN AND SO ON)))


РАЗ АСЕТИНЫ ПОХОЖИ ПО СУДЬБЕ ИСТОРИЧЕСКОЙ НА ЕВРЕЕВ ТО СЛЕДУЕТ ПОВТОРИТЬ УСПЕШНУЮ ЕВРЕЙСКУЮ ИСТОРИЮ ВОТ И ВСЁ ДУМАТЬ НЕ НАДО ЕВРЕИ УЖЕ ВСЁ ПРИДУМАЛИ НУЖНО!

1 ВЫУЧИТЬ ВСЕМ АЛАНАМ ЯЗЫКИ ТЕХ СТРАН ГДЕ ЖИВУТ АЛАНЫ
КАК ТО АНГЛИЙСКИЙ РУССКИЙ
ФРАНЦУЗССКИЙ
ЭТО НЕОБХОДИМО ДЛЯ ОБЩЕНИЯ ДЛЯ ВОСОЗДАНИ Я СВЯЗЕЙ РАЗОРВАННЫХ В РАЗНОЕ ВРЕМЯ МЕЖДУ РАЗНЫМИ ЧАСТЯМИ ОДНОГО!!!!! НАРОДА!

ПОТОМ УЖЕ МОЖНО БУДЕТ СОВМЕСТНО ДЕЙСТВОВАТЬ СОЗДАВАТЬ ПОЛИТИЧЕСКИЕ ЭКОНОМИЧЕСКИЕ ДЕЙСТВИЯ
ПООДИНОЧКЕ МЫ АЛАНЫ СЛАБЫ ЭТО ЯСНО!
ПООДИНОЧКЕ МЫ НЕ МОЖЕМ ВОСОЗДАТЬ РОДИНУ!!!!!!!
И НИКТО КРОМЕ НАС САМИХ НАМ НЕ ПОМОЖЕТ НИКАКОЙ ПУТИН И ТП)))

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ДА КАКАЯ РАЗНИЦА ЕВРЕЙ НЕ ЕВРЕЙ
МЕТАФИЗИЧЕСКИ КАК ВЫРОЖАЕТСЯ КУРГИ НЯН РАСА ВООЩЕ НЕ ВАЖНА.
ГЛАВНОЕ ПОНЯТЬ ЧТО СДЕЛАЛО НАС ЛЮДЬМИ ИЗ ЗВЕРЕЙ И ЧТО СЛЕДОВАТЕЛЬНО МОЖЕТ ПОДНЯТЬ НАС ОТ ЗВЕРЕЙ ДО САМОГО БОГА
Я СЧТАЮ ЭТО СВОБОДНАЯ ВОЛЯ ГРЕКА СЧИТАЕТ ЭТА ЦЕРКОВЬ КАК ТРАДИЦИЯ И ОРГАНИЗАЦИЯ
ПУИТ СЧИТАЕТ ЭТО ГОСУДАСТВО КАК ИНСТИТУТ ПОДАВЛЕНИЯ
ТЫ ДЛЯ АЛАХА
ЕВРЕЯМ НУЖЕН МИСИЯ МЫ ВСЕ РАЗНЫЕ ЯСНО?

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ВИДИТЕ НАВЕРНО ЭТО И ЕСТЬ КВИНТЕСЕНЦИЯ АЛАНОВ БОГ И ВОЛЯ СВОЯ НА ОДНОМ УРОВНЕ ЭТО И ЕСТЬ ОДНО И ТОЖЕ!
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ALANIAN WEDDING BELTS FOR WOMEN!

http://zarava.livejournal.com/203242.html
Автор свадебных нарядов - осетинский модельер Изольда Гогичаева. Еще красивые фото здесь, здесь и здесь и еще тут профессиональная съемка.
Добавлю немного слов к фотам. Помимо свадебных нарядов, Изольда шила костюмы к «Борису Годунову», «Турандот», «Евгению Онегину», «Травиате», «Чародейке» и др.
Высокое качество исполнения традиционных национальных костюмов способствовало проведению переговоров с представителями Парижской оперы о пошиве ООО «Изольда» театральных костюмов для текущего оперного репертуара прославленного театра.


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Alans is the most harmonious people in the world!


Alans as cultural phenomenon!
Alans differ from all people of the world the vision as the world is arranged and as people in the world are arranged. The traditional form of alans life meant full equality of sex: women and men. It that does these people distinct from all other people of the world. Full identical equality of both sex. But thus both sex were almost in everything antipodes of each other that provided a constant overflow of energy sexual from women to men and on the contrary.
In daily life full equality of the importance of both floors, was shown in equivalent tasks them. Men were responsible for life support of families in a peace time the peace work, women in a peace time kept and increased the benefits of the general peace work, and also created a stock on hard times. During wars of the man protected all people in the field of fight, and women with the weapon protected families from enemies and work from disasters of a wartime.
Any sex couldn't declare that it main. Both sex depended from each other and could exist the separately. Therefore a harmony, this that quality of alan's life which was created by a way of life alans!

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аланы-самый гармоничный народ в мире!
Аланы как культурный феномен!
Аланы отличаются от всех народов мира своим видением, как устроен мир и как устроены люди в мире. Традиционная форма аланской жизне подразумевала полное равенство полов: женщин и мужчин. Это то, что делает этот народ отличным от всех остальных народов мира. Полное тождественное равенство обоих полов. Но при этом оба пола были почти во всём антиподами друг друга, что обеспечивало постоянный переток энергии сексуальной от женщин к мужчинам и наоборот. В повседневной жизне полное равентсво значимости обоих полов, проявлялось в равнозначимых задачах их. Мужчины отвечали за жизнеобеспечение семей в мирное время своим мирным трудом, женщины же в мирное время сохраняли и приумножали плоды общего мирного труда, а также создавали запас на трудные времена. Во время войн мужчины защищали весь народ на поле боя, а женщины с оружием защищали семьи от врагов и трудом от бедствий военного времени.
Ниодин пол не мог заявить, что он главный. Оба пола зависели друг от друга и могли существовать друг без друга. Следовательно гармоничность, это то качество аланской жизни , которое было создано самим образом жизни аланов!


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Alans is the most harmonious people in the world!


Alans as cultural phenomenon!
Alans differ from all people of the world the vision as the world is arranged and as people in the world are arranged. The traditional form of alans life meant full equality of sex: women and men. It that does these people distinct from all other people of the world. Full identical equality of both sex. But thus both sex were almost in everything antipodes of each other that provided a constant overflow of energy sexual from women to men and on the contrary.
In daily life full equality of the importance of both floors, was shown in equivalent tasks them. Men were responsible for life support of families in a peace time the peace work, women in a peace time kept and increased the benefits of the general peace work, and also created a stock on hard times. During wars of the man protected all people in the field of fight, and women with the weapon protected families from enemies and work from disasters of a wartime.
Any sex couldn't declare that it main. Both sex depended from each other and could exist the separately. Therefore a harmony, this that quality of alan's life which was created by a way of life alans!

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аланы-самый гармоничный народ в мире!
Аланы как культурный феномен!
Аланы отличаются от всех народов мира своим видением, как устроен мир и как устроены люди в мире. Традиционная форма аланской жизне подразумевала полное равенство полов: женщин и мужчин. Это то, что делает этот народ отличным от всех остальных народов мира. Полное тождественное равенство обоих полов. Но при этом оба пола были почти во всём антиподами друг друга, что обеспечивало постоянный переток энергии сексуальной от женщин к мужчинам и наоборот. В повседневной жизне полное равенство значимости обоих полов, проявлялось в равнозначимых задачах их. Мужчины отвечали за жизнеобеспечение семей в мирное время своим мирным трудом, женщины же в мирное время сохраняли и приумножали плоды общего мирного труда, а также создавали запас на трудные времена. Во время войн мужчины защищали весь народ на поле боя, а женщины с оружием защищали семьи от врагов и трудом от бедствий военного времени.
Ниодин пол не мог заявить, что он главный. Оба пола зависели друг от друга и могли существовать друг без друга. Следовательно гармоничность, это то качество аланской жизни , которое было создано самим образом жизни аланов!


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1. Особенности зубной системы ранних кочевников Горного Алтая. стр. 157: "... редкий (в мире) фен 3YM2 информативен при анализе европеоидных популяций [Зубов, Халдеева, 1993]. Максимум значения его частоты встречаемости (при мировом размахе 0 — 10 приходится на группы, относящиеся к ......... европеоидной расы (Северная Индия, таджики Памира — см.: [Зубов, Халдеева, 1993]). С высокой частотой (13%) признак проявляется у осетин [Зубов, 1973]. При этом, ......... по данным представленной А. А. Зубовым таблицы мирового распределения, он практически не обнаруживается в других древних и современных группах населения мира [Зубов, 1973]. " Стр. 158: "Особый интерес представляет обнаруженная в пазырыкской одонтологической серии высокая частота проявления относительно редкого (в мире) фена 3YM2, сопоставимая со значениями показателя у осетин . В этой связи хотелось бы отметить замечание А.А.Зубова и Н. И.Халдеевой о наличии оснований для связи процессов распространения этого фена с миграциями арийских полемён [Зубов, Халдеева, 1993, с. 83]". Таким образом, академические исследования палеоантропологии саков, скифов и других иранских и североиндийских народов доказали, что расовые особенности являются лакмусовой бумажкой определения арийской принадлежности саков, скифов, сарматов, аланов, северных индийцев и осетин. У саков и скифов зафиксировали тот же расовый антропологический признак 3YM2 , что и у восточноиранских народов и индоиранцев, а у других народов этого признака нет . Следовательно, саки и скифы Центральной Азии и западнее являются индоиранскими народами, конкретно восточноиранскими.




2. Rosser нашол у осетинов 43% R1b Современная концентрация R1b максимальна на территориях, связанных с кельтами: в южной Англии около 70 %, в северной и западной Англии, Испании, Франции, Уэльсе, Шотландии, Ирландии — до 90 % и более. А так же, например, у басков — 88,1 %, испанцев — 70 %, бельгийцев — 63 %, итальянцев — 40 %, немцев — 39 %, норвежцев — 25,9 % и других. У народов Восточной Европы встречается значительно реже. У осетинов - 43 %,



3. Кроме этих соматических у Ненцев Удмуртов и Осетин высокий процент U5a mtdna который считается Арийским и Найден генетико-археологами у "Арийцев" Алтая, и у Белых проникших в Китай.



4. "with respect to mtDNA, Ossetians are significantly more similar to Iranian groups than to Caucasian groups. "
- Genetic Evidence Concerning the Origins of South and North Ossetians









5. Осетины родствены Европейцам по линиям: E1b1b1a2 V13+ и R1b1b2a - L23



Фамилии Аллен-Аллан-Алан, ФитзАлан(Стюарты), Осборн-Озмент, Росс-Руш, Ирвин, Нарди, Алдэр-Элдэр и фамилии Allen, Stewart, Lombardi, Szentes, Elder(Алдары) и интересные окончании на "Тон"(Дон?) и "он".
Это базовый гаплотип субклада L23 , который получен в результате выделения из числа имеющихся маркеров, наиболее часто встречающихся-мод. Т.е. усредненный гаплотип, который предположительно был у родоначальника субклада и от которого считают вновь появившиеся мутации маркеров в виде цифровых значений. В данном случае у Кубатиева всего 12 мутаций от модального гаплотипа на 67 маркеров.
Наличие довольно близких генетически по Y-DNA, представителей субклада L23 ( менее 20 мутаций на 67 маркеров) на Кавказе и в Европе, позволяет предполагать , что носители данного субклада мигрировали в Европу совсем недавно, приблизительно 2 000 лет назад. Они связаны с миграцией в Европу, неких легионеров, которые служили в римской армии.

Ossetians are related to Europeans on lines: E1b1b1a2 V13 + and R1b1b2a - L23 Surnames: Allen-Allan-Alan, Fitzalan (Stuwart, Stuart), Osborn-Ozment, Ross-Rush, Earvin, Nardie, Alder-Elder and surnames of Lombardi, Szentes and surnames which terminated on "Tone" (Don )
research: R1b1b2a - L23EE Modal + Kubatiev + Abdullayev + kuduhov+ Luguev+ Allen +Allan +FitzAlan(Stewart) +Nardi
Existence is enough relatives genetically on Y-DNA, representatives of a subtreasure of L23 (less than 20 mutations on 67 markers) in the Caucasus and in Europe, allow to assume that carriers of this subtreasure migrated to Europe quite recently, about 2 000 years ago. Their migration to Europe is connected with certain legionaries who served in the Roman army. It is basic gaplogroup a subtreasure of L23 which is received as a result of allocation from among available markers, most often meeting - fashions. I.e. average gaplogroup which allegedly the ancestor of a subtreasure had and from which consider again appeared mutations of markers in the form of digital values. In this case Kubatiyev has only 12 mutations from modal gaplogroup on 67 markers.

User ID Last Name Origin Haplogroup Tested With Markers Compared Genetic Distance


JNN7F E1b1b1a2 V13+ modal Unknown E1b1b1a* Other - V13+ haplotype modal - - Z3XSV Tavitov Tauitti, North Ossetia - Alania, Russia Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 16
TCX79 Allen Virginia, USA Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 13
CX94E R1b1b2a - L23EE Modal Unknown R1b1b2a* Family Tree DNA - -
5Y5EA Kubatiev Makhchesk, Ossetia, Russia R1b1b2a* Family Tree DNA 67 12
MX42V kuduhov Vladikavkaz, Russia R1b1* Genographic Project 18 5
PWN78 Romitti Suzzara, Lombardy, Italy R1b1b2a (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 8
8U3YQ Earhart Staudernheim, Rheinland-Plalz, Germany R1b1b2a (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 12
NZVS5 Ross Dornoch, Scotland R1b1b2a1b5 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 15
V4RUP Ross Sutherland, Scotland R1b1b2* Family Tree DNA 67 13
SSKBK Stewart Unknown Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 16
ZZGVV Ross Unknown R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 14
UVB8X Ross Scotland R1b1b2* Family Tree DNA 67 13
E6Q75 Templeton Iredell Co, NC, Scotland R1b1b2a1b5 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 16
GNACX Rose Quebec, Quebec, Canada Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 14
5QJD8 Irving Kirklinton, Cumbria, England Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 16
M4DMC Blair Scotland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 14
2MZGD Stewart Scotland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 16
7HBA7 MacDonald Lewiston, Urquhart & Glenmoriston, Scotland R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 15
YEXGA Allen Unknown R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 16
YQHKF Rose West Virginia, USA R1b1b2a1b5 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 15
7TVE9 Nixon Missouri, USA Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 14
E2AEU Allen North Carolina, USA R1b1b2* Family Tree DNA 67 16
FDZF4 Allen Virginia, USA R1b1 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 16
E7P6N Allen Mitchell County, GA, USA, Georgia, USA R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 15
Q3KV8 Stewart North Carolina, USA R1b1b2a1b (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 17
Z5PSZ Blair North Carolina, USA R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 16
Z33VT Irwin Adams County, Pennsylvania, USA R1b1b2a1b5 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 18
2Z6WU Allen Unknown R1b1b2a1b (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 14
5724Y Stewart Scotland R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 18
XS5DS Elder Pittenweem, Fife, Scotland R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 17
KEWST Allen England R1b1b2a1a (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 17
YPXDZ Roush Germany R1b1b2a1b3 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 16
NJ65W Stewart England R1b1b2a1b (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 17
RYU3K Roche Wexford, Ireland R1b1b2a1a* Family Tree DNA 67 17
H7JJM Irvine Aberdeenshire / Kincardineshire, Scotland R1b1b2* Family Tree DNA 67 17
J3Q6T Stewart Unknown R1b1b2a1b4c (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 17
2B7UR Landon Stokes County, North Carolina, USA R1b1b2a1b (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 17
mabkf Tagert Stewart county, Tennessee, USA R1b1b2a1b5 (tested) Other -
Family Tree DNA, Trace Genetics, Relative Genetics, Ethnoancestry, DNA-Fingerprint, SMGF 67 18
PMVA8 Irvin Virginia, USA Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 18
S22HC Stewart Virginia, USA Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 16
A5TVE Stewart Georgia, USA Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 17
4GCN5 Stewart Appin, Argyllshire, Scotland R1b1 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 17
NSZYS Stewart Whalsay, Shetland Isles, Scotland R1b1b2* Family Tree DNA 67 18
DZ2UC Stuart United Kingdom R1b1b2a1b5* Family Tree DNA 67 17
T3Q27 Allen Connecticut, USA R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 19
BFKN8 Alder Maryland, USA R1b1b2* Family Tree DNA 67 19
YQCC9 Allen Unknown R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 19
JXHHK Ross Unknown R1b1b2a1b (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 19
AHEPZ FitzAlan Unknown R1b* Family Tree DNA 67 17
HFRHJ Irwin Unknown Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 19
4TVGX Osborne Unknown Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 19
694VT Irwin Scotland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 19
8NC3G Elder Alexander Co NC, Iredell Co NC, Scotland R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 18
D3MSG Irving Dumfries, Scotland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 19
UFTZP Armstrong Crosscavanagh, Pomeroy Parish (Donaghmore), Northern
Ireland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 19
MYBA2 Irwin Ireland R1b1 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 19
Q2S2M Stewart Ireland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 18
KZJ2U Allen England R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 19
4H9SS Stewart Alford, England R1b1b2a1b* Family Tree DNA 67 19
55D4U Ozment England Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 19
35UQ4 Ozment London, England R1b1b2a1a (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 19
4AKDG Irvine Gleno, Antrim Co., Ireland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 20
5F58T Stewart kircubbin, Northern Ireland R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 20
8HEUY Stewart Scotland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 19
6695Q Stewart Scotland R1b1b2a1b5 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 19
5BY5F Irwin Unknown Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 20
qqawe Di Nardi Salerno, Italy R1b1b2* Family Tree DNA 67 20
MJG35 Stuart Londonderry, Scotland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 20
JZKH9 Stewart Dergalt near Strabane, Ulster, Ireland R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 21
KYYK6 Holland Unknown Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 20
Y7QYG Werner Unknown R1b1b2a1b5 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 21
K8QH7 Allen Unknown R1b1b2a1a4 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 21
AEGC9 Stewart Virginia, USA R1b1b2* Family Tree DNA 67 21
EBPZM Stewart Virginia, USA R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 20
SV9JY Allen Canada R1b1b2a1b5 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 22
B7XDY Allen Antrim, Northern Ireland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 22
KQQDM Stewart Broughshane, Antrim, Northern Ireland R1b1b2a1b5 (tested)
Family Tree DNA 67 21
XGWCV Stewart Down, Northern Ireland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 21
9WDE6 Stewart Foss, Perthshire, Scotland R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 21
E7RU2 Stewart Elizabethtown KY, Kentucky, USA R1b1 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 20
CKQFK Stuart Glenolden, Pennsylvania, USA R1b1b2a1b5 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 21
R5RFW Stewart Pennsylvania, USA R1b1b2a1b5 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 21
388CJ Stewart Perthshire, Scotland R1b1b2a1b (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 22
66PEA Stewart Kirkcowan, Scotland R1b1b2a1b (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 22
FNDTG Allan Yetholm, Scotland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 22
9GBB3 Allen Belfast, Ulster, Ireland R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 22
ATVCM STEWART Ireland K (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 22
6EDUD Allen Unknown Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 22
7v64p Allen North Carolina, USA R1b1b2a1b (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 23
M9843 Stewart Virginia, USA R1b1b2a1b4 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 23
3SB5Y Allen Unknown Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 24
KWJJ3 Allen Belfast, Ireland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 23
N9S2Z Allen Erie, England R1b1b2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 23
X23B2 Allen South Carolina, USA B2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 24
U7EME Stewart Perthshire, Scotland Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 24
4FUQP Stewart Lane Side, Colvend, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland E1b1b1a2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 11
8P2QR Lombardi Italy Unknown Family Tree DNA 66 14
A84EV Szentes Bukovina, Transylvania, Hungary Unknown Family Tree DNA 37 5
34H2M Elder North Carolina, USA E1b1b1* Family Tree DNA 37 6
CV2W4 ELDER Unknown E1b1b1a (tested) Family Tree DNA 37 6
F97V5 Dutton England E1b1b1* Family Tree DNA 67 10
92HMY Whittington Georgia, USA Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 9
FJ9GE Smith Grafton, New York, USA E1b1b1a2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 9
4AK2U Smith Unknown E1b1b1a2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 10
GQD24 Dupont Three Rivers, Quebec, Canada E1b1b1a2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 11
EGV8G Lancaster Colne, Lancashire, England E1b1b1a2 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 11
YYMK7 McKnight Unknown E1b1b1 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 14
327HE Lancaster Barton, England Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 12
E5KCM Smith Arkansas, Texas, USA Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 11
QYBCJ McMahon Ireland Unknown Family Tree DNA 66 16
CVYBX Phillips England E1b1b1* Family Tree DNA 66 15
YR9MJ Gordon Slonim, Belarus E1b1b* Family Tree DNA 66 15
9F6RX Addington hodgdon me., USA E1b1b1 (tested) Family Tree DNA 66 14
4vb7e SCHUETZ Oszeninken/Osseningken bei Skaisgirren, Kr. Ragnit, East Prussia/Ostpreu?en, Germany E1b1b1a2 (tested) Other - Multiple 67 19
C8USB Ossetian_Modal_G2a1a Ossetia, Russia G2a1a Family Tree DNA 67 0
ENKNN Aboity Zaramag, Ossetia, Russia Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 3
6PS3J Dzhugaev Ossetia G2a (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 4
PHD23 Totrov Ossetia, Russia G2a1a
Family Tree DNA 67 5
QE9HC Ozel Unknown G2a (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 6
MZJUF Ramonov Russia G2a1a (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 6
GJ229 Berezov Ossetia, Russia G2a1
Family Tree DNA 67 7
6R6HV Ramonov Ossetia, Russia G2a1a
Family Tree DNA 67 6
YYV5A Berezov Unknown G2a1 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 7
X74WN Parker Gloucestershire, England G (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 13
84N8Q Show Benedict Tasborough, now Tasburgh, Norfolk, England G2a1a (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 16
N4UYA Benedict Tasborough, now Tasburgh, Norfolk, England G2a1a (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 17
E7N9B Benedict East Anglia, England G2a1a (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 18
VVHWJ Show Sloan Niemirow, Poland G2a1 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 19
ZDVM9 Szentes Transylvania, Hungary Unknown Family Tree DNA 67 18
ZNAFX Chabiev Koban, Ossetia, Russia G2a1a Family Tree DNA 67 19
D2KDR lyamov Mustafino, Ossetia, Russia G2a1a Family Tree DNA 67 26
CSJK6 Show Moody Moulton, England G2a1a (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 24
XQHGA Price Unknown G2a (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 26
TYB8D Gursel Bulgaria G2a1 (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 27
VYH96 Lermi Unknown G (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 27
WUEXC Wright Unknown G2a1a (tested) Family Tree DNA 67 28











В галерею заходит мужчина около 70 лет, с газетой в руке. Мне супруга говорит сразу, что он похож на осетина. Мужчина подходит к нам, представляется Гиемом Жонлу и говорит, что он по происхождению алан. Я был, честно говоря, немножко ошарашен. Он рассказал мне, что он потомок алан. Родился в Бретании. В городе, где он родился, есть замок «Шато Алон», и там каждый второй – алан. Из поколения в поколение предки передавали, что они не британцы и не французы, а именно аланы. Так вот в его роду, утверждал Гием Жонлу, все были потомственные военные, хотя он сам врач и уже давно на пенсии, но осанка у него действительно военная. Его сыновей зовут Артур и Алан. Мы с ним долго общались, он очень много знал про алан, расспрашивал о России, об Осетии. Я ему подарил кое-какие сувениры, теперь он себя называет не аланом, а осетином.









MODERN ALANIA (Les Sables-d’Olonne ) POPULATION 300 000 PEOPLE- IN FRANCE - Ле-Сабль-д’Олон - аланские пески